Does Obama Know He's A Democrat?

Via Mark Halperin's The Page, Obama has sent a campaign memo out with this language:

"Right now groups supporting Hillary Clinton and John Edwards are flooding Iowa and the other early states with millions of dollars in paid ads, phone calls, and mailings. Some of it is negative and even deceptive, and a lot of it is paid for by huge, unregulated contributions from special interests. Taking on these groups isn't just a matter of setting the record straight about me or my positions. It's about proving that a new kind of campaign -- funded by ordinary people who want something better for all of us -- can defeat the same tired, old political textbook that so many Americans just don't trust anymore."

According to Halperin, here are the awful groups undermining American democracy in Iowa (presumably by campaigning against Barack Obama):

For Hillary Clinton
AFSCME: $907,177.24
AFT: $635,822.19
Emily's List: $297,806.69
Total: $1,840,426.12

For John Edwards
Working for Working Americans/Carpenters: $516,216.51
Alliance for a New America (SEIU): $760,801.00
Total: $1,277,017.51

Does Obama understand that the only way he's going to have a chance in hell in November 2008 is to get unions and other parts of the Democratic base to support him?  Unions and groups like Emily's List are not part of some tired, political textbook of politics as usual.  They are key to electing Democrats.  

Oh, and by the way Harvard guy, unions represent "ordinary people."  



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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (1.00 / 1)

"...unregulated contributions from special interests."

Let us remember he employed 3 registered lobbyist on the 08' campaign.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/12/20/163 741/44

He is such a schmuck!  This guy makes me sick!


by lonnette33 on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:00:37 PM EST

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Employing lobbyists isn't ethically anything like taking campaign contributions from them. Lobbyists are people too. It's just wrong to take money from people whose very job is to influence politicians. It's a very simple concept.


by Mystylplx on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:11:32 PM EST
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irony alert! (2.00 / 1)

Lobbyists are people too.sounds a lot like -

Hillary's "lobbyist representing regular people too!"

like union members!


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 06:47:09 PM EST
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Re: irony alert! (none / 0)

Exactly! She just shouldn't take campaign contributions from them. They are paid (unlike Union members) to influence politics. Let them do it with the power of their arguments rather than the power of their pocketbooks.


by Mystylplx on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 12:18:16 PM EST
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nice pretzel logic (1.66 / 3)


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 09:13:30 PM EST
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Re: nice pretzel logic (none / 0)

It's perfectly straightforward. Lobbyists are paid to influence politics, therefor they shouldn't be giving money to individual politicians. It's a very simple concept.

It doesn't mean that lobbyists are evil or dirty or that they must be shunned. There's nothing wrong with hiring one as long as it's Obama paying the lobbyist and not the lobbyist paying Obama. See how the two cases are entirely different?


by Mystylplx on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 12:40:01 PM EST
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Re: nice pretzel logic (none / 0)

And yet your candidate has 3 lobbyists on his 08' payroll. "Hope" politics? Give me a break!


by lonnette33 on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 08:16:13 PM EST
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Re: nice pretzel logic (none / 0)

And yet he's paying them and they're not paying him.

Do you not grasp the concept?


by Mystylplx on Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 12:24:38 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

"Key to electing Democrats" - Unions and Emily's List are special interest groups that want something for their money. Don't put them on a pedestal.


by JoeCoaster on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:02:47 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

I don't put them on a pedastal.  But part of what unions want is more power for workers and stronger collective bargaining rights.  One of the things that has gotten out of whack over the past decade is the power and wealth corporations have compared to workers.  That needs to be fixed and one way to do that is by giving unions and workers more of a voice, not less of one.

Yes, they are a special interest group, but they are a special interest group that mostly supports policies that I, as a progressive, agree with. I don't want them weakened or marginalized.  We need groups like unions to help push for change in U.S. economic and labor policy.  And I care much more about changing policy, then I care about changing politics (which, from what I can tell, hasn't changed in any essential way since the founding of this nation).


by BDB on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:08:37 PM EST
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Exactly. Unions are a special interest group plain and simple.

I'm an attorney at a big law firm.

Who the hell is speaking for me?

Oh yeah. I get it. I'm not part of the "working class" even though I probably work 3X as much as the typical union member--and owe 150K+ in student loans.

Sorry. I'd rather Obama not be beholden to them.


by Bode on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:23:53 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (1.66 / 3)

Emily's list represents more than half the population of America.  They are in the business of electing women to public office.  Don't try to minimize them.  I realize women are treated like a minority in this nation, but in fact we are not and we are not a special interest group either Einstein, we are the majority and the people who are primarily responsible for getting democrats of both sexes elected.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 09:16:41 PM EST
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Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (1.00 / 1)

Since Obama is so enamored of Republicans these days, maybe he should enlist the help of the NRA and the anti-abortion lobby and the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth to help get his message out in Iowa.


by hwc on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:11:27 PM EST

When will Barry answer a tough question? (none / 0)

When will he address the position he took in the questionaire that he filled out for his Senate run?  Where he said he ban handguns, etc.

When will he speak to his drug use?

When will he speak to his voting record in the IL Senate?  Incl. all his 'present' votes, incl. on issues like porn near schools?

Why doesn't Barry do Russert and man up?  He is hiding from tough questions behind a wall of surrogates.  When it gets too hot he blames staffers for his mistakes.

When will he answer to whether he had prior knowledge of the personal attacks his campaign directed at Hillary Clinton, such as D-Punjab.


by dpANDREWS on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:38:00 PM EST
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Re: When will Barry answer a tough question? (none / 0)

Senator Obama was on Meet the Press on November 11

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/

You can watch it here if you missed it.


by WellstoneDem on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 11:53:52 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

"Oh, and by the way Harvard guy, unions represent "ordinary people.""

So what? Union membership is plummeting.

Sorry, but unions are hardly a force to be reckoned with.


by Bode on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:21:28 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

If unions aren't a force in democratic politics, then why does Obama care what they do?


by BDB on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:31:36 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

Because they are aiding his enemies. That is all that he cares about.

If someone, like you , is trying to take Obama down, he's going to call up his supportes to fight back.

If unions are among the enemy, they'll we'll fight against them too.

Sorry, I'm sick of unions and other the other tired old voices hijacking the agenda.


by Bode on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:36:45 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

Unions are the reason we won in 2006.  But thank you for noting that Barack's notion of new politics involves one person and one person only: Barack Obama.  Because I believe the Party is only strong when it can build a winning coalition, I do not engage in such narcissistic politics.


by truthteller2007 on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:40:42 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

The enemy:  that's the Republicans.  Start attacking them Barack instead of saying how wonderful bipartisanship is.


by David Kowalski on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:41:49 PM EST
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What exactly is the agenda? (none / 0)

For the record, I am a lawyer with a Fortune 500 company. I'd rather see Edwards president.


"Once in a while you get shown the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right"
by molly bloom on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 10:57:25 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

Obama may well find out the role that unions and hard-core Democratic organizations like Emily's List play.

His attack today on core Democratic Party organizations has the potential to seriously hurt him in Iowa, where the caucuses are dominated by traditional Democratic Party groups.


by hwc on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:37:04 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

Emily's List. Gimme a freakin' break. He doesn't need to give a damn about them. They don't aid men. I support their mission. But who cares. They can go work on some congressional races or something.

Look, if Obama loses, fine. But he's not to mold himself into something he's not. But guess what, if enough people buy what he's selling, then the old gaurd interests will find themselves disempowered.

That's why Obama is a threat, because they know that he can upset their current priveleged perch in the party.

I say its time to knock these SPECIAL INTERESTS down to size and put them in their place.


by Bode on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:40:28 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

Barack Obama is a special interest, and that interest is himself.  


by truthteller2007 on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:41:34 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

Emily's List. Gimme a freakin' break. He doesn't need to give a damn about them. They don't aid men.

I agree. Obama's repeated "present" votes on abortion legislation when he was a part-time state senator establishes a clear position of indifference on choice. This attack on one of the premier pro-choice political organizations in the country simply confirms the fact that Obama is not a reliable ally in this area.

He is clearly anti-labor.


by hwc on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:48:12 PM EST
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Yeah. Obama's just itching to appoint Justices who are going to overturn Roe.

Fake issue. Pet issue. Hijacks the agency.

Who cares.


by Bode on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:49:33 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

And why should Democrats take the opinions of a lawyer who chose to work as a slave in a law firm seriously?  Why should we take the rhetoric of a corporate Democrat seriously?


by truthteller2007 on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:52:43 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

Don't...but sorry, the majority of Dems are not union members. The only thing is, unions, like evangelicals, are organized and so speak with a more powerful voice than their numbers justify.


by Bode on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:57:50 PM EST
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Comparing unions to evangelicals (none / 0)

boy, sometimes its easy to get confused here.


by okamichan13 on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:00:55 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (1.50 / 2)

they work their asses off at election time and they know how to organize.  If other people had that much ambition they too could effect elections.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 09:07:15 PM EST
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He cares because (none / 0)

they aren't supporting him.


by okamichan13 on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:01:37 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

screw you and merry christmas

anyone who says the crap you do is no democrat.

i cant wait to beat you scabby bastards!


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 06:49:33 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 3)

Interesting to note that the Obama supporters are joining him in attacking labor unions and pro-choice women's groups.


by hwc on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 04:59:30 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

I would rather lose in november than allow this  type to take 0ver our Party.


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 06:57:40 PM EST
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The only reason Obama complains (none / 0)

is because he doesn't have any national endorsements from unions or other groups like Emily's List or Friends of the Earth.

Just imagine if he did. But until that happens, he'll gladly take your $2300 check without a complaint.


by okamichan13 on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 06:59:39 PM EST

Re: The only reason Obama complains (1.50 / 2)

yes and he will call PAC money evil while handing it out to buy support.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 09:03:22 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

When a Union puts out a flyer on behalf of Clinton attacking Obama while making it look like it came from Edwards they are not acting in the best interests of the party.  If it wasn't for that type of bullshit actions there would be no reason for this letter.  


by Piuma on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:15:23 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

But he didn't just attack that flyer.*  That's what I think he's gone wrong.  He's gone after all of the backers in Iowa and painted them with the same broad stroke.

It's also a bit hypocritical to try to win someone's endorsement - and Obama has worked hard for union endorsements - and then complain that these same folks are special interests that are ruining American politics.  

* The interesting thing about the flap over the flyer is that there's nothing in the flyer that's untrue.  I understand why Edwards complained about it, but it's harder for Obama to do so since Edwards has criticized his healthcare plan.


by BDB on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:21:31 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

If these "special interests" are so bad then why did Obama try so hard to get their support?


by world dictator on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 09:04:18 PM EST
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Re: Do Unions control our Party? (2.00 / 1)

From the Huffington Post:


Union members in Illinois and Iowa are denouncing their national leaders as hypocrites for sending out a deceptive campaign mailer aimed this week at Barack Obama. They are livid that the political arm of their 1.4 million member American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) financed a mailer to Iowa voters slamming Obama for opposing individual health care mandates - the same sort of mandates long opposed by the union.

"This is definitely hypocritical, absolutely," said Carter Woodruff, an activist with Iowa AFSCME and a former official of the union state council. "It's a desperate attempt to attack [Obama] for unfounded reasons. It's a shame they stooped so low."

The union's direct mail flyer was written in a disguised manner that suggested it came from the John Edwards campaign and not from AFSCME and it slapped Obama for taking what it called "the timid way out, offering yet another band-aid solution."

AFSCME's national leadership endorsed Hillary Clinton last October and is expected to spend millions on her behalf if she wins the nomination.

Woodruff along with Henry Bayer, Executive Director of Illinois-based AFSCME Council 31, spoke to reporters on a conference call organized by the Obama campaign. Council 31, representing 75,000 Illinois public employees, endorsed Obama this month. "Senator Obama has fought like hell for working people," said Bayer. "His health care plan is most in line with that of our national union."

The dissident union members, indeed, pointed out that AFSCME's national health care resolution passed earlier this year declared that individual mandates are "incompatible" with the principles and interests of the union membership.

And in congressional testimony last April, AFSCME President Gerald McEntee also denounced individual mandates as they would force families to "pay much higher prices" for health care policies.

But AFSCME President McEntee is a long-time loyal supporter of the Clintons and though his union went through an extended process of internal consultation before acting it was a foregone conclusion that it would eventually put its heft into Hillary Clinton's corner. He was an early supporter of President Bill Clinton's candidacy and emerged as the most important pro-Clinton labor leader during the 1990's.


by Piuma on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:30:19 PM EST

Re: Do Unions control our Party? (none / 0)

Yes. Obama's people have worked very hard over the last few days doing "oppo research" and attacking AFSCME.

The foolishness of that is the whole point of this diary. Mr. "Can't We All just sing Kumbaya" seems to be eager to attack Democrats.


by hwc on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 07:48:32 PM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (2.00 / 1)

Those local unions supporting him are now special interest too?

This guy is a jerk!

I noticed he left out the Fire-fighters unions for Dodd!

Is he parsing these unions now?


by pate on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 08:18:14 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

Maybe, just maybe, he doesn't think all unions are the same.  Maybe he sees a difference between unions that endorse someone else, and unions that endorse someone else then spend millions of dollars to lie about his policies.


by Setec on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 01:51:08 AM EST
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Re: Does Obama Know (none / 0)

The MSM are now at a fever-pitch desperately trying to change the dynamic of the Democratic presidential race.  The lies are coming fast and furious now: "Obama ties in New Hampshire." "Obama rises in Georgia."

But lies they are--this is all the MSM is left with in two weeks to change a dynamic in the primary campaign that has not essentially changed all year.

Senator Obama is all that was ant-Clinton in 2000--the same talking heads, the same rationale, the nation needs to "move away from the Clintons," "choose someone with little Washington experience," "choose the folksy guy over the stiff one."

The nation is now in shambles.  All the world awaits--will America return to the tried and proven "peace and prosperity" years of the Clintons or risk it all on another spoiled-brat neophyte adored by the MSM and much of the blogosphere.

I know that in the end, the bedrock Democrats--not those New Hamsphire and Iowa "indies" and "leaners" will not abandon the Clintons.

And thus the United States will have at least a sporting chance to avoid implosion and rise from the ashes once more.


by lambros on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 08:41:13 PM EST

The black Joe Lieberman (1.00 / 2)

and becoming more so by the month....

The man hates democrats and our traditional power bases and organizations.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 08:59:47 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

Gee, Obama supporters attacking unions, and Emily's list for not buying the hype. Imagine that!!


by RDemocrat on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 10:27:32 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

According to the NYTIMES tonight, Obama said in Iowa that he is trying to appeal to "Obama Republicans".


by hwc on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 11:15:30 PM EST

Last Time I Checked the United Auto Workers... (none / 0)

...were a union, and UAW in IL,IA,WI & MN have endorsed Barack Obama & real change.  Solidarity forever!


by howardpark on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 11:29:24 PM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Democrat? (none / 0)

OMFG RED ALERT SOMEBODY ISN'T PANDERING ENOUGH TO UNIONS!!!!!!!

What is this party coming to?  Before you know it, we're going to have politicians trying to represent all Democrats, maybe even all Americans... even the evil horrible bastards who aren't union members!  What nerve!  He must be stopped!


by Setec on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 01:47:07 AM EST

The great big sucking sound (none / 0)

of mydd sucking at straws. Thanks for the laugh.


Dare to be free.
by misscee on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 06:42:20 AM EST

Does Obama Know He's A Senator? (none / 0)

Sure, he's out campaigning for President.  But, I grow increasingly disturbed by his Senate absences for key votes.  He was elected to serve in the Senate, not run for President.  If he can't handle the one job, how can we expect him to handle the other.

Yes, I know the other candidates are equally guilty of shirking the responsibilities of their elective offices.  But, Obama is MY Senator and he is not doing his job.


by pascal1947 on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 08:26:58 AM EST

Re: Does Obama Know He's A Senator? (none / 0)

Actually, the other candidates are not equally guilty.

What's really annoying is that Obama ducks votes and then attacks other Democrats for casting votes. For example, on Kyl-Lieberman, Obama was never in Washington that entire week. He missed the actual vote and would have missed the vote the day before when it was originally scheduled because he wasn't in Washington then either. Then, he lies and says he would have voted, but the rescheduling made it impossible.

We was in the Senate building during the Moveon.org vote and ducked the vote. He voted on another measure earlier that morning and again an hour later. But, didn't want to take a stand on the moveon resolution.


by hwc on Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 10:47:17 AM EST
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